Post by lostcowgirl on Jun 6, 2012 11:04:17 GMT -5
While doing some historical research for my writing I came across this little fact - the beer served at the Long Branch back in 1870s Dodge City was Budweiser. It was brought to town from St. Louis via the Santa Fe whenever more was needed. Too bad Bud never sponsored GS, they could have had some free plugs whenever it was drawn from the tap or at least with a sign in one of the windows or behind the bar.
your right Budweiser was around then,.. and if you remember..back in one of my stories...DAMN!..title slips me right now, But , Kitty spends time with the Lemp Family in St.Louis MO. who were the Owner/Brewers of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer as we know it today... And one of the daughter's later married into a family of another brewery..again I'd have to go back into my file and see the details..but I looked it up for my story.
I found in my file the story.."The Heart will bring Us Home" The Lemp Family turned out to have a tragic Life..several suicides...But , the began with the own beer, "Falstaff" beer /Brewery..First brewery to establish coast-coast distribution..of the Beer Then William Sr. ( the William in My Story) also helped Anheuser/Busche get started. when Prohibition happened and they began losing Money they sold the brewery for 588,000 a fraction of the 7 million it was worth ( To an international Shoe Company.) This link is a whole story about the family..., cool read....
Budweiser, eh? That's pretty neat. I wonder if they ever got any Coors freighted over to Dodge. I think Coors started up around 1873 or so, so I guess it's possible...and it's a straight shot from the Coors brewery in Golden, CO to Dodge. No mountains to cross, since Golden is right on the edge of the foothills on the eastern edge ("front range", as it's called around here) of the Rockies. I know because I live nearby, despite the often-changing Gunsmoke-related locations I put in my profile to appear under my name, just for fun.
I never gave much though to what kind of beer they served on Gunsmoke before. If I'd had to guess, I would have said that bar owners (or their local suppliers) brewed their own, just as many folks around Dodge made their own corn liquor. It's even mentioned in "How To Kill A Woman".
But another question is this: How did they keep it cold? Bury the keg and run a pump up to the bar? In one radio episode of Gunsmoke, Matt mentions ice houses to Chester, but where would they get ice in Dodge in the summer? It's not near any mountain streams that I know of, and I don't think they made ice in the 1870s but rather had it shipped in and then stored it in underground rooms or insulated buildings. Maybe ice came on the train?
Last thought on beer, at least for now:
Ever notice how often Matt and others would order a beer and then only have a sip before leaving? That has always bugged me on TV shows. You got a whole beer there! Drink it!
However, I did see one of the B&W episodes on DVD recently in which Matt sits down at a table with Kitty and gulps down half a glass in one swig, and then gives her a big smile. I guess they didn't always walk away from nearly full glasses, but it happens enough on Gunsmoke and other TV shows to make me wonder.
The beer on the show was real beer, and the whiskey was tea. I dont know what brand of beer though. In real 1873 Dodge Ice was used to keep the kegs cold, and to make ice cream, ect. In the winter, ice was cut in slabs from ponds, creeks, rivers and stored between hay in barns. It would melt slowly, but there was enough to keep the beer cold. Ice was also stored underground. At 6 feet under in Kansas the ambient temp is 55 degrees year round, so ice could be kept from melting as fast as it would in a barn.
Post by lostcowgirl on Jun 6, 2012 16:11:26 GMT -5
Mike, thanks for the info on why ice houses in KS worked. People back then also had ice boxes to keep things cool and the ice was delivered in big blocks from the closest ice house. If you noticed the beer and whiskey kegs at the Long Branch were stored in the basement storage room, which would be cooler, although they never showed any ice.
As to Coors, it was only sold in CO into the 1970s. I first drank Coors in Silver Plume, CO in 1974 when it was first beginning to be known nationally. I wasn't impressed, but I loved the Plume Saloon where I drank it. At the time, Silver Plume was a ghost town from the heyday of CO mining that the hippies revived.
I prefer Heineken. Everything else tastes like swamp water. Blech! Of course, Dutch beer might be kinda hard to get into Dodge
I live in south Arkansas and Coors used to be illegal in Texarkana. It's legal now but back in the 80s I remember we couldn't buy it unless we went to Louisiana or Texas. Something about it not being pasturtized (sp?). Or, at least, that's what we were told.
I have an uncle in NW Arkansas and back in the late 70's we hauled 50 cases of Coors down there for my uncle. I didnt know at the time that it was illegal, but we might have been jailed if we were caught. My uncle stored it in his garage and he also owned a monkey back then who got a kick out of pulling the ring pull tabs on the 4 top accessable cases. Everyone except my uncle thought it was funny. 96 cans of beer down the drain.
For Me... Coors is ok..But if I'm gonna drink a Beer It's"Yuengling"...Most of you probably don't know it?..it was started in Pottsville,Pa.(Coal Mining Country) oh, back in the 1800's ..They started getting it here in Florida a little over a year or so ago... actually , they bought and old brewery here in Tampa.. and converted it. as for "BUD" yuck I'm with you Teri...Headache Beer!...lol
Lindy, you see how easily we get off track in some of these threads! :-) Just mention something like beer and we are off and running. My uneducated guess is that "cold" beer in 1870's Kansas saloons was "cool" or just "not warm" beer in today's mindset. I am not sure if the barrels were tapped in the basement and drafted from the bar or if the barrels were rolled up as needed and tapped right under the bar.
Just to mention that in England they do not ice beer. The barrels or kegs are stored in the cellar of the pub and the beer is then pulled up to the bar by the pump handle and "beer engine". It is served at the temperature that it arrives at from the cellar - may be a degree or two colder than the bar temperature. Most English folks would shudder at the thought of ice cold beer, but once you live here in the south for a while and it is 90+ degrees outside, you very soon learn to appreciate that ice cold liquid ! Interesting discussion.